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		<title>By: WalOzello</title>
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		<dc:creator>WalOzello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off:
Excessive vulgarity?  If you&#039;ve seen one of the &quot;Bromance&quot; movies that are out there, this movie is right in line with those. You&#039;re writing towards a target audience.  And anyone who evaluates written material needs to realize they might not be the intended target audience.

Understanding that you&#039;re writing towards the &quot;bromance&quot; target audience, this is my two cents:

If anything, I&#039;d add MORE vulgarity. I assume these characters have been trapped in space for a long time TOGETHER and by now have developed their own language and catch phases they speak to each other. &quot;FUCK&quot; is too elementary for them.  They need something a little more eloquent like &quot;Bitchin&#039; Shitfuckers&quot; or smart like &quot;Fuck, dude, we&#039;re more screwed than that whore we met on Bloggeden Nine.&quot; If you&#039;ve seen Juno or Superbad - you know what I&#039;m talking about.

Next - Give the black hole more of reason to have sex with the ship - go back and rewrite the situation so that there&#039;s more actual dialogue of flirting. In real life, you just don&#039;t find a girl and go at it - you have to romance her at the bar and then get her home to perform the act.  Give us more foreplay at the beginning.

With that said, there needs to be more VISUALS.  Movies are a visual medium.  The less words - the more exciting it is.  Words are for books and the theater.  Your dialogue should be sparse, it makes it more effective.

Any good screenplay goes through several rewrites.  Give the characters their own language and make the situation more metaphorical of real life.

That&#039;s my two cents.
-Wal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off:<br />
Excessive vulgarity?  If you&#8217;ve seen one of the &#8220;Bromance&#8221; movies that are out there, this movie is right in line with those. You&#8217;re writing towards a target audience.  And anyone who evaluates written material needs to realize they might not be the intended target audience.</p>
<p>Understanding that you&#8217;re writing towards the &#8220;bromance&#8221; target audience, this is my two cents:</p>
<p>If anything, I&#8217;d add MORE vulgarity. I assume these characters have been trapped in space for a long time TOGETHER and by now have developed their own language and catch phases they speak to each other. &#8220;FUCK&#8221; is too elementary for them.  They need something a little more eloquent like &#8220;Bitchin&#8217; Shitfuckers&#8221; or smart like &#8220;Fuck, dude, we&#8217;re more screwed than that whore we met on Bloggeden Nine.&#8221; If you&#8217;ve seen Juno or Superbad &#8211; you know what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>Next &#8211; Give the black hole more of reason to have sex with the ship &#8211; go back and rewrite the situation so that there&#8217;s more actual dialogue of flirting. In real life, you just don&#8217;t find a girl and go at it &#8211; you have to romance her at the bar and then get her home to perform the act.  Give us more foreplay at the beginning.</p>
<p>With that said, there needs to be more VISUALS.  Movies are a visual medium.  The less words &#8211; the more exciting it is.  Words are for books and the theater.  Your dialogue should be sparse, it makes it more effective.</p>
<p>Any good screenplay goes through several rewrites.  Give the characters their own language and make the situation more metaphorical of real life.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my two cents.<br />
-Wal</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, you don&#039;t happen to know the song &quot;She Loves Italian&quot; by EMC, do you? Nice little story you have here. Scifi isn&#039;t usually my cup of tea, but it&#039;s cute (in a WTF kind of way) all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, you don&#8217;t happen to know the song &#8220;She Loves Italian&#8221; by EMC, do you? Nice little story you have here. Scifi isn&#8217;t usually my cup of tea, but it&#8217;s cute (in a WTF kind of way) all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Writer Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my two cents, but I didn&#039;t think the vulgarity was excessive at all. It fit the story perfectly. Wonderful little screenplay, Jamie.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my two cents, but I didn&#8217;t think the vulgarity was excessive at all. It fit the story perfectly. Wonderful little screenplay, Jamie.</p>
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		<title>By: Oso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie,

The cursing was a little dense for me, especially considering it could have been cut almost entirely.  Plus each swear word detracts from the relevance of its brethren.  I think the bit about the orb telling him to fuck his mother would be funnier without exhausting that word beforehand.

I felt a little more background could be worked in for the less SF savvy viewer, even if just a line about how this thing doesn&#039;t seem to want to make contact.  

It&#039;s hard to call it rape when it was their idea and they never really said no.  I&#039;d like to see one of the guys point that out.  Maybe Roy can&#039;t remember the Italian word for &quot;stop&quot;.

It&#039;s a cute idea in a disturbing kind of way.  I like a lot about it.  It could almost be an Axe body spray commercial.  It could make a very nice flash piece, too.  Good luck with it.

-Oso

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie,</p>
<p>The cursing was a little dense for me, especially considering it could have been cut almost entirely.  Plus each swear word detracts from the relevance of its brethren.  I think the bit about the orb telling him to fuck his mother would be funnier without exhausting that word beforehand.</p>
<p>I felt a little more background could be worked in for the less SF savvy viewer, even if just a line about how this thing doesn&#8217;t seem to want to make contact.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to call it rape when it was their idea and they never really said no.  I&#8217;d like to see one of the guys point that out.  Maybe Roy can&#8217;t remember the Italian word for &#8220;stop&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a cute idea in a disturbing kind of way.  I like a lot about it.  It could almost be an Axe body spray commercial.  It could make a very nice flash piece, too.  Good luck with it.</p>
<p>-Oso</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hetrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Hetrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice. I laughed a good bit at this (not sure if that&#039;s a good thing pre-meeting, but whatever).

Also, with the vulgarity, I hardly noticed it was there after the first cuss word (and probably only then because you said something). If in editing, some goes away, that&#039;s fine, but I don&#039;t believe it needs toned down. 

I loved the ending, and I laughed again to think just what adventures were being had with Roy and Clay and the &quot;lover-ship&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. I laughed a good bit at this (not sure if that&#8217;s a good thing pre-meeting, but whatever).</p>
<p>Also, with the vulgarity, I hardly noticed it was there after the first cuss word (and probably only then because you said something). If in editing, some goes away, that&#8217;s fine, but I don&#8217;t believe it needs toned down. </p>
<p>I loved the ending, and I laughed again to think just what adventures were being had with Roy and Clay and the &#8220;lover-ship&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Grove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joanna Most of my favorite cussers are Scottish (Billy Connolly and Craig Mc come to mind) so I&#039;m not surprised. :)  I&#039;m also not entirely happy with the &quot;by default line.&quot;  It lacks real punch.  I think what I&#039;m going for there is apparent, but the phrasing&#039;s not quite right.  Good to have a second opinion that concurs.

I do think that people resist the promise of the stars.  They struggle so hard to stay in their familiar mode and role...  Now, I&#039;m not saying that I&#039;m wishing for some massive metallic sphere to descend from the heavens and carry me off, but it would be interesting to go. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joanna Most of my favorite cussers are Scottish (Billy Connolly and Craig Mc come to mind) so I&#8217;m not surprised. <img src='http://www.hownottowrite.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m also not entirely happy with the &#8220;by default line.&#8221;  It lacks real punch.  I think what I&#8217;m going for there is apparent, but the phrasing&#8217;s not quite right.  Good to have a second opinion that concurs.</p>
<p>I do think that people resist the promise of the stars.  They struggle so hard to stay in their familiar mode and role&#8230;  Now, I&#8217;m not saying that I&#8217;m wishing for some massive metallic sphere to descend from the heavens and carry me off, but it would be interesting to go. <img src='http://www.hownottowrite.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joanna Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jamie, I loved it! Really made me smile.

The only bit that tripped me up was &#039;space raped by default&#039;... my brain was trying to work out what kind of a beast a default was... ;-)

I didn&#039;t notice the swearing... that&#039;s what comes of living in Scotland maybe.

And I loved the fact it took us off to see the stars... We spend so much time resisting that invitation don&#039;t we?

See you in cyberspace sometime

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jamie, I loved it! Really made me smile.</p>
<p>The only bit that tripped me up was &#8216;space raped by default&#8217;&#8230; my brain was trying to work out what kind of a beast a default was&#8230; <img src='http://www.hownottowrite.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t notice the swearing&#8230; that&#8217;s what comes of living in Scotland maybe.</p>
<p>And I loved the fact it took us off to see the stars&#8230; We spend so much time resisting that invitation don&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>See you in cyberspace sometime</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Grove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@roguepuppet Now that&#039;s some high praise! I&#039;m hoping I can live up to just 10% of that. ;) [Thanks!]

@CraigMc That&#039;s why we ought to be writing movies together {wink, wink}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@roguepuppet Now that&#8217;s some high praise! I&#8217;m hoping I can live up to just 10% of that. <img src='http://www.hownottowrite.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  [Thanks!]</p>
<p>@CraigMc That&#8217;s why we ought to be writing movies together {wink, wink}</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother, I love the dialog technique too!  I also find it useful to do a movie synopsis for my stories prior to writing them.  I actually try to write it as if I were a publicist (selling myself on the story?).  It provides a vision and objective to work toward.  Of course, no harm in detouring away from your plan if your characters decide to take you somewhere you didn&#039;t plan on going (happens a lot).  Even if it&#039;s to a bit of soft porn in orbit ... 

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Craig Mc&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://mcwherter.com/?p=70&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lives Remaining&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother, I love the dialog technique too!  I also find it useful to do a movie synopsis for my stories prior to writing them.  I actually try to write it as if I were a publicist (selling myself on the story?).  It provides a vision and objective to work toward.  Of course, no harm in detouring away from your plan if your characters decide to take you somewhere you didn&#8217;t plan on going (happens a lot).  Even if it&#8217;s to a bit of soft porn in orbit &#8230; </p>
<p><abbr><em>Craig Mc&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://mcwherter.com/?p=70" rel="nofollow">Lives Remaining</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: roguepuppet</title>
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		<dc:creator>roguepuppet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This took me immediately to a strange cross between Vonnegut or Heinlein and a bit of the &quot;ship who sings&quot; series.  From a long time SciFi lover, I found it completely plausible, humorous and not at all confusing. Tighten it up just a bit and you have the screenplay for one of the SciFi chanel&#039;s little &quot;station identity&quot; animated shorts.  I am looking forward to more.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This took me immediately to a strange cross between Vonnegut or Heinlein and a bit of the &#8220;ship who sings&#8221; series.  From a long time SciFi lover, I found it completely plausible, humorous and not at all confusing. Tighten it up just a bit and you have the screenplay for one of the SciFi chanel&#8217;s little &#8220;station identity&#8221; animated shorts.  I am looking forward to more.</p>
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